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Post by asa20 on Feb 5, 2006 17:48:18 GMT -4
hey, i've been drumming for about 4 years now and have been playing the same cymbals the whole time- sabian B8 and sabian Pro. i'm looking to update to Sabian AA because i really like their sound. i'm gonna get 13" hi hats, 17" crash on the left, 18" on the right but i'm not sure about the ride. i want some thats not gonna be tight sounding but real washy. a lot of drummers i have seen including will have used their ride bu hitting the top but also pumped the edges for a crash sound. what type of cymbal is that? crash ride? or just a ride?
will- i saw you guys at iup this past fall with simple plan and u guys were wonderful. if u remember i was the dude who came in before and was walking around. i met as u were leaving the locker room. haha. sorry about that.
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Post by Thrill Kill Will on Feb 6, 2006 12:02:23 GMT -4
no sweat. its not uncommon to catch me in sweat pants and flip flops. though catching me right after a shower is sometimes a rare occurence (especially on tour!)
well, let's start at the very beginning. a cymbal is a cymbal. what you use it for defines what it truely is. the names that each cymbal is given, is just a way to classify it, and perhaps a suggestion as to how you are supposed to use it.
in the past i've set up using 3 ride cymbals. one as a traditional ride (which i always crash on, when need be) and 2 in traditional crash positions. to me, a 21" sweet ride from zildjian has too much wash and not enough ping to be a ride, but it makes a decent crash. also older cymbals tend to be much thinner than their modern equivilent. so a 60s ride is going to have lots of nice crash qualities to it. ?uestlove from the roots i beleive uses two 14" crashes as hihats. recently i've started using a 14" istanbul light top hi hat on TOP, and a 14" istanbul heavy top hihat on BOTTOM. just because it says "top" doesnt mean you can't use it on the bottom, or as a crash, or piggybacked on a china for some interesting effects.
i always suggest learning the rules. because the better you know the rules. the easier they are to break. \
so try out every single cymbal you can. give it a nice little tap to hear the ping of the ride... nail the bell, and see how it projects.... then give it a nice strike right on the edge and see how it opens up as a crash... maybe you'll like a lighter ride becuase of its crash qualities, or maybe you'll like a heavier crash becuase of its ride qualities.
have fun!
(oh and PS - one of my favorite rides for a while was an entry level zildjian scimitar.... nice ping, peircing bell, and the trashiest crash you ever heard.)
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