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Post by aarontoben on Mar 8, 2005 18:44:04 GMT -4
how so? how is your kit set up similar to his?
and i think derek grant, dave wagenschutz, neil hennessy and billy brimblecom are some of the best drummers out there today.
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Post by ninjas and tacos on Mar 8, 2005 19:17:35 GMT -4
how so? how is your kit set up similar to his? will plays a four piece just like dave used to... you know, with just the one rack tom. but nowadays dave is playing with two floor toms, which is a big reason why i started playing like that... |
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Post by aarontoben on Mar 8, 2005 21:18:22 GMT -4
but was dave one of the first to only use a 4-piece?
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Post by ninjas and tacos on Mar 9, 2005 2:14:30 GMT -4
but was dave one of the first to only use a 4-piece? of course not... ringo is the only one i can think of right now, but plenty of older drummers played a four piece. i'm guessing that dave was the first drummer will was really into who played with that setup |
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Post by Thrill Kill Will on Mar 11, 2005 1:00:20 GMT -4
a 4 peice kit is pretty common... especially in jazz or big band stuff from back in the day. some of the old dudes used to rock 2 floor toms as well. but when i started playing drums in the early 90s, every drumset you saw in an ad or in a store was a lame 5 peice kit with 12" and 13" rack toms. sure, lars ulrich has the standard metal 9 peice kit, but for some reason, when i saw dave grohl play, it just made sense. dave grohl didn't use this to his advantage, but i play my ride cymbal flat and really close in over the kick drum, where a typical second rack would be, and this gives me a nice angle to over use the bell (which i do) and crash on the ride as well.
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Post by MrYads on Mar 13, 2005 16:38:20 GMT -4
The drummer from The Dillinger Escape Plan is insanely talented, and just stylish too, just listen to some of the jazz parts that he plays.
A lot of metal bands also have really good drummers, Morbid Angel, Shadows Fall, Mastodon, etc...
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Post by ninjas and tacos on Mar 13, 2005 18:52:34 GMT -4
A lot of metal bands also have really good drummers... one of my friends is obsessed with the drummer from lamb of god... i can't stand listening to them long enough to figure out why he likes the guy so much |
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Post by drmrdude53 on Sept 16, 2005 0:36:06 GMT -4
good call with travis from blink..that guy is my hero even if blink's actual music isn't that good...another good call with carter buford and the underground jazz drummers...but yeah...i think that while guys like neil pert and Dave Grohl are damn good it doesn't get any better than buddy rich and Gene Krupa...i have an mp3 of a drum battle between those two that is beyond amazing
Will you are amazing too...especially that one fill you do towards the end of tension and the terror...i can play all of your other stuff, but for some reason i can't figure that part out..
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Post by ninjas and tacos on Dec 4, 2005 3:18:13 GMT -4
have any of you seen that video of buddy rich battling animal from the muppets? that is hilarious & awesome.
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Post by Thrill Kill Will on Dec 5, 2005 1:55:38 GMT -4
this is probably way late, and won't make sense. but the fill i rock at the end of tension is cool but i totally stole it. mostly i stole it from josh epert (coheed). he showed me some really cool stuff you can do by incorporating a double stroke on the kick with some 16ths on your hands. i dontknow how this will work but.. its basically 16th notes. i'll abbreviate kick (K) snare (S) rack (R) and floor (F):
S-S-R-R-K-K-R-R-F-F-K-K-S-S-R-R-K-K-R-R-F-F-K-K
in right (R) left (L) kick (K) its pretty simple:
R-L-R-L-K-K-R-L-R-L-K-K-R-L-R-L-K-K-R-L-R-L-K-K
then i come out of it with a simple 8th note triplet phrase ( i think its 8th note rather than 16th note triplet)
its just the same pattern as above from the snare-rack-floor (2 of each). that triplet at the end makes up for the time lost on the fill... because the beginning of the fill is a little "out of time" kinda... just because its patterned in 3, and the time signature is 4. so its a 6 beat fill with 2 beats of triplets.... i'm not making sense.
-will
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Post by innovea on Dec 5, 2005 2:08:24 GMT -4
I just want to say wow, I've never seen an artist explain to a fan how to play his song before. While I understand the concept of a part being "out of time" and making up for it, I am no drummer and I think I understand how all the beats add up so you start and finish in the right place, but anyhow, it's not me who needs to know. As I said, I think it's very rare and wonderful to explain your part like you have.
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Post by ninjas and tacos on Dec 7, 2005 6:17:58 GMT -4
I've never seen an artist explain to a fan how to play his song before. fully dude... will, you're my hero. oh, and some dude at a music shop showed me how to do that sort of fill... but i cheat and use a double pedal. |
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Post by Thrill Kill Will on Dec 8, 2005 11:48:28 GMT -4
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
DONT use a double pedal for double strokes. do NOT do that. that is really a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE habit.
did i emphasis that enough?
its just a personal opinion but i highly suggest that you use only one foot for doing simple double strokes... as a drummer you should be pushing yourself to even be doing triple strokes on one foot. (sort of the way tim alexander does in "john the fisherman" by primus).
its 100% cool to rock the double pedal but don't use it in place of a quick right foot. its like a crutch.
practice, don't cheat! you'll be happier in the long run.
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Post by iamian on Dec 11, 2005 15:03:44 GMT -4
Dan Gluszak.
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Post by ninjas and tacos on Dec 12, 2005 6:54:21 GMT -4
 i didn't mean to upset you... gosh. anywho... i just now noticed that someone said something about derek grant a few posts ago. he is one of my more favoritest drummers...but i loves me some alkaline trio, and that might be part of it. i hugged matt skiba once.
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